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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2006, 11:01:26 PM »

It's hard to truly know the context not being there I suppose.

Also, There was addtional verbage after where he said "I need my dear friend to join me."

So, maybe he truly meant he wants an old friend in washington with him, regardless of his color. But either way, regardless of what Obama meant, many people are interpreting it this way...


From some blog somewhere..(I googled)..
"Obama (who happens to be black) essentially asked voters (who happened to be black) to vote for Harold Ford (who also happens to be black) because "I'm feeling lonely in Washington." Sure, you could argue that he didn't mean something racist by his comment. There are several ways to interpret it so that Obama didn't come out and say he feels lonely surrounded by white people."

From what I hear, Obama's a stand up guy, who just a week before was making anti-racist statements. So, I'm not saying he's racist or trying to assume what he actually meant. I just got reminded of that incident because his name came up.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2006, 11:51:42 PM »

*was going to comment but decided against it because what Obama said can be interpretted soo many ways its silly*

*besides shouldnt he be captaining the Galactica and leading it towards earth?*
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2006, 01:27:11 AM »

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Well, w/e.  It'd be fun to watch Obama, Osama and the Dahli Lama play Odama in Yokohama while Willmar Valderrama acts with no drama.  :wink:
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2006, 08:16:59 PM »

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*besides shouldnt he be captaining the Galactica and leading it towards earth?*

maybe they din knowd wh you meaned?  :tongue: Its Adama Pajama
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2006, 04:25:58 PM »

Hmm, I interpreted this election as basically people voting _against_ Republicans and not so much _for_ Democrats.  It would be interesting to see a comparison of the voting turnout and which way those elections went from 2004.  My guess is that the turnout for the Democrats and the number of votes they got would probably be about the same.  I would also guess that Republicans just got fewer votes this time.  In so many races the vote can be so close that all it takes is for a relatively small percentage of the incumbents base to refuse to vote for him/her that he/she loses.

I think a lot of Republican voters just didn't vote because they felt abandoned and ignored by the Republican Congress and President Bush.  I certainly felt betrayed by all of them.

I would love to see, in every election, a ballot choice in each race that says "None of the above".  If this choice wins, then none of the people in that election win and a new election would have to be held with new candidates because all of those candidates have been rejected.  Right now, we basically are given the choice of the lesser of two evils.  I think we deserve better.
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2006, 01:54:38 PM »

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Hmm, I interpreted this election as basically people voting _against_ Republicans and not so much _for_ Democrats.  It would be interesting to see a comparison of the voting turnout and which way those elections went from 2004.  My guess is that the turnout for the Democrats and the number of votes they got would probably be about the same.
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This is correct.

The democratic base was just as fired up (turnout) during the 2004 elections.
The difference now is,  with the Iraq war still a mess, and immigrants still streaming over the border with Bush wanting to give amnesty, loyal republicans have decided it may be time to try something new for the country, rather than vote for the party.

Even democratic voters cannot tell you what the dems plans are, because they really don't have one. They just wanted in. And with the republican base wavering, they got it.

Let's just hope that after this, and the 2008 presidency, the whole partisan divide that's fueled by the Bush hatred will begin to close a little, and people begin to focus a little more on merely what's good for the country, and not just hating the other party.

With the far left Pelosi crowd in control, the dems may merely hurt themselves more after two years of showing that they're too left for most of the nation. But the fact that Pelosi got shot down on the Murtha bid, is not only a sign of the dems own split within themselves, but that some of the more moderate dems are still actually in control. Which is a good thing.

Now if we can just get the average working stiff on the street to become more aware of their country's politics, instead of just pulling the lever their union boss or father in law told them too, and if we can get people voting for the right idea, and the right man, instead of just their party, maybe things can improve around here.

But I doubt it. There's a whole lot of cancer growing in this country, the description of which is better left to another thread. But within a decade I'll be taking my passport and moving to Amsterdam.
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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2006, 09:01:02 PM »

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Now if we can just get the average working stiff on the street to become more aware of their country's politics, instead of just pulling the lever their union boss or father in law told them too, and if we can get people voting for the right idea, and the right man, instead of just their party, maybe things can improve around here.

But I doubt it. There's a whole lot of cancer growing in this country, the description of which is better left to another thread. But within a decade I'll be taking my passport and moving to Amsterdam.

Um, where would you go if Amsterdam (and most of the rest of Europe) is a Moslem country by then?
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2006, 08:19:07 PM »

sketchy ground, cow.  that's all i'm going to say.
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2006, 08:25:49 PM »

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Um, where would you go if Amsterdam (and most of the rest of Europe) is a Moslem country by then?



Geez.  I pretty much agreed with you, and still have to get hassled anyway.

It was just a figure of speech. The intended point is evident without a detailed explanation of a hypothetical off the cuff figure of speech.
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2006, 10:16:52 PM »

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Geez.  I pretty much agreed with you, and still have to get hassled anyway.

It was just a figure of speech. The intended point is evident without a detailed explanation of a hypothetical off the cuff figure of speech.


Sorry to bother you.
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« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2006, 11:02:09 PM »

Well, I'm sorry for my snippy response too.

Bad day today.  I'm still at the Hard Rock and I was massively hungover this morning.  :hmm:
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