The rising threat of Mother Russia

[achilles118]

this is the pre conflict political dance. look Im stronger then u so dont screw wit me.

a. the brits showin off there shiny new airplanes
b. the russians testing/showin up on borders (sends the signal, look wut I can do)
c. the ruskies anounce there new bomob. (btw no bomb the size of the moab/foab can be dropped by anything other then a cargo aircraft and they are not intended to damage to millitary targets, there purpose is to clear foliage such as trees to create a drop/landing zone)

[Ronin]

Just imagine how large a landing zone a 2 kiloton nuke would make... 

[achilles118]

good point but my perspective (keep in mind im a ground pounder and not an expert at aeronautics):

2 kiloton nuke..........I dont know of an aircraft big enough to carry it but fast enough to get out of its blast radius, maybe some kind of cool timing system on the device itself. scary thought seein it drop and thinking you have x amount of time left.

[Ronin]

Technically, a 2K ton nuke is considered pretty small.  Physically and relative to yield.  Physically they weigh less than five hundred pounds.  So any just about any jet in the world could deploy it.  As for getting out of the way of the blast, if it's dropped with a chute (retarded) the deploying aircraft will have a couple of minutes to leave the area.  So, bags of time.

The problem is, it would give a whole new meaning to the term "hot LZ"... 

[achilles118]

not as important with nukes but if you consider that the actual weight of the device/ordinance is 500 lbs then most of that is metal casing and such the actual net explosive weight would only be like 200 lbs..........if that

[farmboy]

The problem is, it would give a whole new meaning to the term "hot LZ"... 

yeah...nuclear fallout...it's not so good for the body

[Da Fish]

Im pretty uncertain, and well open to being educated, but I was lead to believe that H-bombs released less fall out than other atom bombs.....

failing that, a couple of MOABs would probably do the trick!

[Zazoo]

Im pretty uncertain, and well open to being educated, but I was lead to believe that H-bombs released less fall out than other atom bombs.....

failing that, a couple of MOABs would probably do the trick!

An H-bomb actually contains a fission bomb (A-bomb). The A-bomb detonation triggers the fussion in the H-bomb.
Fallout really depends on the yield of the bomb and the altitude of detonation.
Since H-bombs tend to have higher yields than A-bombs I'd imagine the opposite to be true (more fallout from H-bomb).

But I'm no expert!
~Mike

[Da Fish]

probably best to pack the lead suits and suntan lotion just in case then!

[MONOLITH]

This thread has successfully continued for almost 3 years. Somebody really smart must have started it.   

[achilles118]

nah that dudes an ass hat

[MONOLITH]

...with a ban button.   

[DaSmerg]

Russia 'upset' by US shield plans -BBCNews.com

...Earlier, a Russian foreign ministry statement said: "If a US strategic anti-missile shield starts to be deployed near our borders, we will be forced to react not in a diplomatic fashion but with military-technical means."

It said there was "no doubt that the grouping of elements of the strategic US arsenal faced towards Russian territory" would mean Moscow had to "take adequate measures to compensate for the threats to its national security"..."

[Da Fish]

nah that dudes an ass hat

...with a ban button.   

Is there anything more dangerous?

Going back on topic..... ish...

Does anyone know if the the new anti missile radar/shield would be able to detect Iranian launched missiles? and if so give the Isrealis "better" (aka more advanced and accurate warnings)?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7498214.stm

Although the shield is far from perfect yet.....

The next question, he says, is whether Poland will accept missile defence facilities as well, and how the Russians will respond to that.

The plans remain unpopular in the Czech Republic, while the US has failed to reach agreement with Poland on placing other parts of the system there.

The Poles cant reach an agreement with the US.

[Lostroth]

Israel has a "Strike First" policy. so if they even get a whiff that Iran plans an attack on Israel, Israel will strike first and hard. just look at what they did in Iraq many years ago and just recently in Syria.

[achilles118]

yes but would isreal strike in defense of its allies (us), I dont think its a prevailing thought in the minds of there leadership but maybe if we asked real nice. as far as i know israel does not and is not getting the missile defense system, might be a good idea though.

[Lostroth]

oh i'm sure Israel would retaliate if the US or even Canada was attacked by Iran, cause Israel knows they would be second.

honestly i know nothing of the missile defense system, i know Israel has the Patriot System if i remember correctly.

[achilles118]

i think you missed the point there, israel has a first strike policy, but would they preemptively strike iran for us. I dont think so. Yes the israel has the patriot system but unfortunately it only deals with certain sized ordinance (small to medium, unlike the kind that would be fired from iran to america) and its greatly flawed/untested. infact most of the few real life scenarios where the patriot was actually tested where actually cases of fratricide   

[Lostroth]

hard to say if Israel would strike first in that kind of scenario. i'm sure they would, well at least i hope they would hehe, the US is a big ally.

i think the Patriot system is all Israel really needs to defend itself against missiles from Iran. Iran doesn't need Intercontinental Missiles to hit Israel.

wasn't the Patriot system used in the first Gulf War? or am i thinking of something else? i remember watching a TV show about them a few years back and how well they operated in the Gulf War, but then again it would be a biased show hehe.

[achilles118]

the patriot system was used in the gulf war, by israel, when iraq shot scuds into gaza in retaliation but it only had about an 80% success rate.