GRAW and Ageia

[Kryptech]

Just wanted to hear everyones opinions on the implementation of Ageia's PPU in this much anticipated game.

Do you think this will have a positive effect on the overall game?

Are you wiling to fork out the dough($150-$250-US) for these new cards?

If you want more information about this new technology here is their(Ageia's) homepage:

Thanks,
Kryptech(a.k.a. Draconis)

[Dr.Jeckyl]

sure, why not? it should bring a whole new realism to games. we thought HL2's physics were revolutionary, just wait until this technology is implemented in more games.

[BPR_MiK]

If the gameplay is as good as GR1 i will spend whatever i need to ,

[MindlessOath]

its not much help.. will smooth out gameplay thats it.  to pay that much is bull... and ageia knows it, but they have to because of the rest of the competition and they want the money.  i belive they publicly stated it somewhere?

anyways, i think its outragous that we pay 300$ or more (5 and 6 hundred) for high end grfx cards... 300$ should be max, thats even way to much, but thats what it should be.  to tell ya the truth, the grfx card does way more than the CPU and has more transisters, its well worth its weight in gold in compairison to a CPU... so i guess it does seem fine when thought about.

ati has hardware in the grfx card that can do what the ageia card can do... but we all are waiting on the release of the cards next year when they want to release.  

lots more to the story too.

[MrCouch]

getting a tad bit off subject are we MO? :tongue:

[MindlessOath]

getting a tad bit off subject are we MO? :tongue:

actually no. im not off subject at all.  from the topic its alot of info.

[TaLoN]

I just hope my system wont lagg like hell because i refuse to buy one.

[Kryptech]

I just hope my system wont lagg like hell because i refuse to buy one.

Let's just hope there is an option to disable some of the features that will require the higher phsyics calculations. However I would like to point out that when GR1 came out almost everybody had to upgrade their graphics cards to the newest one in order to play it.

its not much help.. will smooth out gameplay thats it.

I would also like to point out that current CPU/GPU configurations can only handle about 200 active objects per screen max, while the PPU can easily handle over 100,000 active objects per screen. I think that will make more of a difference than just smoother gameplay.

GRAW is supposed to have a fully destructable environment. Without the PPU this would be damn near impossible(though has been done before). To be able to have a game with near photo quality graphics, decent A.I., and fully interactive environments will require way more computing power that any CPU/GPU combination on the market or in development today, and that includes dual-core CPU's.

I for one look forward to seeing what these PPU's can do and I really hope they are implemented correctly and open doors to a whole new realm of gameplay, however as I have learned, in this crazy world things aren't always what they seem to be, so I will just wait and see if the developers at Ageia can do what they say they can, or if there just using the old smoke and mirrors routine.

Thanks for your reply's guys,
Kryptech

[Kryptech]

its not much help.. will smooth out gameplay thats it.  to pay that much is bull... and ageia knows it, but they have to because of the rest of the competition and they want the money.  i belive they publicly stated it somewhere?

ati has hardware in the grfx card that can do what the ageia card can do... but we all are waiting on the release of the cards next year when they want to release.  

If I am not mistaken though a new ATI card will cost upwards of $600-$800 US.

If you think $200 dollars is too much to pay for the PPU then why pay 3-4x more for a video card that will only slightly improve graphics when you could just buy the PPU card?(Which would also improve graphics considerably by freeing up much of the load given to the GPU.)

[MindlessOath]

well... ghost recon will not be so grfx intense that you will NEED this card. it will provide some improvements. i belive they have two differnt code bases so that when you have the card it will off load the api for the ageia card, and this will take the load offering more fps for the grfx card and cpu to do there work.

the game will be playable and will allow you to customize the grfx settings, no worries there.

in theory your explination is correct, but have you seen a real world demo of this i think not, in fact few people have, it is a good imrprovement.

why pay 600 for a grfx card and not just an ageia card?  becaues i want the new grfx plus the capabilities of the physics processing it may have.  so its well woth the package.

250$ is way to expensive for what this card provides and does. especially if i want to update the grfx power.

[Kryptech]

250$ is way to expensive for what this card provides and does. especially if i want to update the grfx power.

Well I am really hoping it IS worth it. I do however respect your opinion, and it usually is better to wait and see how new technology is going to work out I guess. The price isn't gonna break me though so I'm gonna give it a try.

Thanks for ur thoughts.

[MindlessOath]

well from the compairson of ati vs ageia, you will see you would clearly favor ati... but ati is awaiting the arrival of the competition for its release.

we will see then if its worth it to buy a 500$ card that does way more than the ageia 250$ card - which is only for games to free up some frames and it actually looks better than normal play too, like water.

worth 250$ if your going to upgrade? well thats the high end card, i belive they have a range, two are set for release, i know asus has some already made, i have seen alot of engenering samples from ageia, and the tech demo makes this technology look really cool... and it is really cool... and ageia knows this technology is worth the high price, but the cost to create these cards is soooooo LOW that they are ripping off the consumer by doing so... well see what happens when multiple players hit the market, prices might rise even more, but we may get way more out of the deal too.

[baff]

i'll watch an in game move with ageia on and then the same movie with it off.
If it looks good, i'll buy it.

I'm more intrested to see what unreal is going to do with it. I think Graw is just going to be particles from explosions.