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« on: September 23, 2006, 12:53:26 PM »

Anyone else got it? loving it as much as this little boy over here?
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2006, 02:45:07 PM »

YES!  Cheesy   Thumbs up 2

Bought it the day it came out.


Awesome RTS.  Great feel and ambiance to it. Graphics are top notch without bogging my machine down.

Lots of cool gameplay features. Lots of depth and strategy.

I'm loving it.

There's one skirmish map where the German AI starts at the bottom of map, in a small area south of a river; the north and south portions of the map are connected by 4 bridges, with the north half (allied) being much larger. First thing I did was run Engineers out to 3 of the bridges and blow them up, then stacked troops to guard the last bridge. Germans couldn't cross and were trapped on their side with almost no resources. Great MP tactic..Blow the bridges! :wink:
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2006, 05:17:19 PM »

What are the specs for the game?
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2006, 06:48:05 PM »

Minimum System Requirements
System: 2.0GHz Intel Pentium IV or equivalent
RAM: 512 MB
Video Memory: 64 MB
Hard Drive Space: 6500 MB
Recommended System Requirements
System: 3.0GHz Intel Pentium or equivalent
RAM: 1024 MB
Video Memory: 256 MB
Hard Drive Space: 6500 MB

And the game is optimized well enough, like most or every relic engine that I know of.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2006, 07:00:57 PM »

I'm playing on picking it up but I'm stupid busy right now and I don't want that kind of distraction.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2006, 11:46:14 PM »

Got it love it - completed campaign.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2006, 09:33:29 AM »

god i wish i had money to buy new games. there are so many games i want to play right now.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2006, 02:13:22 PM »

I am hating it right now because of a online issue that Relic is not helping with. Since the patch the game is not allowing me to get online so I am stuck with singleplayer play.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2006, 03:52:02 PM »

Mofoka- I'm guessing you called tech support, and they couldn't help ya?  hopefully they'll come out with another patch and fix ya up, the game dosen't have many bugs, I'd like to see any sorted out eventually.
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2006, 03:37:27 PM »

Oh man at the store today, alot of customers were talking about, or asking, what will play company of hero's well. and being that it is beefy, some high priced video cards got sold. So weird to actually see people all a buzz over a good game, and just willing to blow hundreds of dollars, as long as they hear, oh yeah you'll be able to play at high settings with this card.

EDIT- though oblivion, BF2, and WoW also get that treatment
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2006, 10:51:52 PM »

how do I use Hamachi with it?
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2006, 05:52:52 PM »

Mofoka, has anyone PM'ed you? Cuz I can help you out if not.. The games AWSOME

And it works well with Hamachi (from what i have read), most games do that i have tried in the past... no lag and its fast and easy, tiny little program as well, very well made if i do say so myself.

Hamachi makes the game think its on a LAN.. but over tcp/ip. It works with any game that has a lan option.

Let me know if you need some help, Id love to play online... (with people i know)

Plus we are kinda noobish and wont just stop all over each other the entire time.cheesy

All online gamers should know of this program and if they dont they should look into it... for many reasons...Like not having to connect to some crappy service just to play with friends, nobody knows your on but the people you want to play with... you wont get flooded with ping requests... and its also encripted data so theres less/no chance people can ... well,i dunno.. do something stupid.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2006, 01:26:22 AM »

Yea mike, I got it working but I cant join multiplayer like a lot of the people at forums.relicnews.com have posted.
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2006, 11:38:14 PM »

Great graphics, great effects. I like the greater focus on stategic game play. Only three major complaints.

1. The micromanagement in this game is F'in' ridiculous. Especially when trying to play the AI (which can micromanage with ease).
2. To much emphasis on rush-style game play. They include some awesome defensive structures/options, but the layout of just about every map limit the defensive-player's options. It would be great if developers took a few minutes to set up some game play maps/mode with the defensive player in mind. For example, a mode where one player is tasked with defense while the other plays offense (perfect for the WWII genre) -- the round starts with a set cease-fire period. This period allows defensive player time to fortify his position while the enemy gets to assemble forces and position them around the map. Then, the offense player gets X amount of time to take the position. Stuff like this, that gives you a greater range of play, would be great.
3. (This sort of goes with #2) Not enough skirmish/MP setup options! It would be nice to play infantry only battles, or limit the weapons available to each side.

I don't know... this game is awesome, but I'm having a hard time getting into it because it forces me to play the same type of strategy every skirmish game. The forced pacing and the excessive micromangement makes it really hard to get a full appreciation for the great stategic depth Relic included. :sad:
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2006, 01:15:24 AM »

Zazoo- I think alot of your complaints can be solved by playing with another person against a few computers. With my freinds right now even with just two of us, it's possible for one person to go totally offensive, while another goes either total defense, or atleast counters attacks into your territory. For the americans The airborne general is pure offensive strategy, while the tank is more a second line strategy, the infantry is for the pure defensive. same thing sort of goes for germans, defense tree is actually the best for defense out of the two sides, especially increased vision around your own structures, a cheap self defense artillery, and ESPECIALLY being able to re-enforce from any bunker, making medic bunkers unnecesary for this general. As for blizt or terror, both are decent offensive, but blitz gives you some DAMN good options. But please trust me, and as VERY turtle style RTS player that LOVES his defence structures, this game has great defence options, sure arty can make your defences weaken, but with a little spacing the impact is negligable, and a few engies can fix the rest. plus bunkers, plus AT canons, plus mortars or heavy artillery, make for a impenetrable defensive line, and there are maps that cater to that style, especially the ones with urban terrain, or wild growth. there are always a few places on each map where you can set up a defence that can control more or less a much larger area around it, and basicly force the computer to try to break your line, or get around it. Thats actually been my only problem the computer is great at figuring out where your cracks in the defensive line is, but a few infatry squads or another player can fill those gaps easily enough, perhaps even used to your advantage.

As for having to micro manage I don't find this problem at all. between their own inherent survival behaviour, running after a artillery strike, to hitting the ground and crawling to cover when a machine gun opens up on your troops. Theres always going to be a decent level of micromanagement with RTSs, but with a lack of resource gathering, I find you can focus more on defense or offense. When your just playing alone against the computer, you do have to focus on both, and the occasial building you have to make back at your base. with another person though, Your focus does become more focused, especially when your using a general thats along the play style you want.
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2006, 03:10:41 AM »

Thanks for the input sith, but I'm a single-player gamer (and a picky gamer).

I'm just finding it hard to have fun when I'm jumping all over the map trying to do 200 things at once just to keep up with the CPU. Micromanagement is inevitable with the RTS genre, but some games do a better job of controlling it than others. This game doesn't do a very good job IMHO. It kills the fun for me, it's a pain in the ass and gets old very fast. I juggle enough tasks and priorities in my real life -- I don't need to spend an hour or two frantically doing it in a game too. I can't even effectively utilize all of the tactical elements of the game because I have no way to stop the action and issue orders. It's impossible. The frustrating thing is that I know how to use the units, and how to effectively flank and attack. I could do all this --  if I had five F'ing seconds to place orders and issue facing/movement commands without having to jump somewhere else on the map and respond to something or micromanage. The game's AI is playing like an ADHD kid spazing out after eating a 5lb bag of sugar. Maybe some people have lightining fast mouse/keyboard skills -- I don't. And I'm not playing this game to test my brain's ability to manage a billion simultaneous tasks in real time (nor am I in a race to see how fast I can induce carpal tunnel syndrome). I was looking for something with a bit more thoughtful planning and strategy involved, not just a constant stream of frantic reaction.
(EDIT - Found it, thanks Sith!). There is no sandbox mode (that I could find) to let you get a feel for the units and the trees. And even the easy mode is a pain in the ass for a new player who doesn't play the game in exactly the style they want you to play it.
I didn't realize until after I played the game that this game was based off the WH40k system (It explains a lot though)

Great graphics, great sound, runs really well on my older system, and I really like how they sturctured the tech trees and how they set up the unit abilities. I just don't like being forced into one style of game play (especially one that I find extremely annoying).

But I'm in the minority. This game is getting great reviews and everyone else seems to like it. Oh well, I'll wait for the next RTS offering. :sad:


Oh and don't mind me, I'm grumpy for other reasons. Long hard week. I sat down this weekend to play this game (had been looking forward to it for a long time). Played through the tutorial and was like, "wow, this is gonna rock". I was wrong, and that pissed an already stressed me off. :tongue:

-GeoMike-
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2006, 06:30:21 AM »

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I can't even effectively utilize all of the tactical elements of the game because I have no way to stop the action and issue orders. It's impossible.
-GeoMike-


hit the puase key on your keyboard in single player, and maybe in skirmish mode too. it'll pause the game, and you can issue away orders.
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2006, 07:40:13 AM »

Quote from: sithdemon;25495
hit the puase key on your keyboard in single player, and maybe in skirmish mode too. it'll pause the game, and you can issue away orders.


Really? I couldn't get it to work. I'll try again. Thanks

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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2006, 11:44:23 AM »

Mike, I feel the same way as you about many RTS situations.

It's even worse for me, because not only am I a total turtler, but I love to just hang out and look at all the cool graphics and take my time soaking in every small nuance of a game, and definately love taking my time setting up defensive tactics.

It was one of the the things that forced me to stay on easy/medium mode with C&C:Generals. I hated the fact the the Generals AI would rush my camp fairly quickly. Warcraft 3 was impossible to play for this reason.

To make it worse, I refused to use the pause key, feeling like that was a cheat. "it's suppose to be 'real time' not 'stop time' ".

Then I realized, "wait a minute";

I'm a human. I can only think so fast, about so many different situations. I'm playing against a computer that can think instantaneously about dozens of situations. So in reality, the computer being able to micromanage the entire battlefield in a blink of an eye, was in fact cheating.

Now I pause the game constantly, simply to level the playing field and make it fair for a human player.

I use to hate it, thinking it was an immersion killer; but now it in fact allows me to view deeper into the game and study all of it's strategies, having the time to really soak in a situation before it's over before I had a chance to even see what happened.

Give it a chance. COH is a great game, and you'll never find a game that's perfectly suited to any one humans tastes or desires I think part of the reason you meshed so well with Generals, is because you hung in there until you found a way to overcome any shortcomings; you found a playing style that worked.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2006, 12:30:53 PM »

PS. I'm pretty sure that you can issue orders to your units while paused, so you can respond to multiple situations simultaneously.
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