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Author Topic: Anyone seen "War of the Worlds"?  (Read 1632 times)
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« on: August 11, 2005, 02:20:07 AM »

Yeah I know, I'm late on this one, but I don't get out to the movies often.
I finally went to see this the other day, I assume a lot of other people have seen it since it was a pretty big summer flick. I know there are some other movie buffs here too, so I figured I'd see what others though.

IMHO it sucked the big one. Incredibly disappointing. I didn't mind that it was a big departure from the book (though still not as much as "I, Robot"  :roll:).
It was just a mess. WTF happen to Spielberg with this one? It's almost like when they got around to shootibng the movie he lost all interest in the project and said **** it, lets just hurry up and half-ass this one to get it done. The special effects were good, but the plot, continuity, and pacing all sucked. Even the logic of half of the scenes in the movie didn't work.

Thoughts?
~Mike
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2005, 02:21:47 AM »

yes and i liked it
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2005, 02:42:33 AM »

Yea I have to agree Zazoo, but there is sumthing to say for what he was trying to do. What I came out of the movie with was the demonstration of fear and Kaos that would insue in a large civilliazed enviroment if Catastrophy would occur.  I think he could have gone alot further with it and filled alot of voids, but  overall I wouldnt call it crap, just not up to his par.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2005, 02:47:43 AM »

yeah I thought it was great.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2005, 03:15:42 AM »

I thought it was okay.  They rushed the ending though.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2005, 03:17:06 AM »

Loved it. They took the book and implimented it in to modern day life and it was treated just like it would be now days. Confusion, panic, anger... he captured everything very well. One of my favorite parts is the lighting. One of the only things that felt old in that film to me was the lighting. The little girl standing by the stream and the fake looking reflection is dancing across her face, the basement shots with the windows blocked out- all done insanely well.

*spoiler warning*

My only problems were Tom Cruise and the survival of the son and how that was done. I was really hoping they would off him in this version but not only did they not, but they gave no explanation to his miraculous return to Boston. The end was just crap (plotwise).

Otherwise loved it. 4.3/5 here. Good watch.

And while we're on the subject of old movies- I just watched Million Dollar Baby. Had no idea it was a movie about that, thought it was purely boxing. Great film. Clint Eastwood did very well with it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2005, 03:20:20 AM »

Yea, MDB was a very good movie and very suprising, the plot twist came out of no where.  People must have really kept their traps shut about it, cause I was expecting a rocky victorious type of beating all odds movie.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2005, 03:29:32 AM »

I have not seen it, although I saw the last 5 minutes of the movie.  That ruins stuff doesnt it?
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2005, 03:58:03 AM »

i was quite dissapointed too. although i cannot wait for his next three films

Untitled 1972 Munich Olymipcs film w/ Eric Bana
Indy IV
Untitled Abraham Lincon film w/ Liam Neeson
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2005, 04:46:00 AM »

I enjoyed it. As much as I hate Mr. Cruise and his wild media shanagans.. he's a damn good actor.

Here's my top 5 favorite movies of summer '05:

1. Cinderella Man
2. Batman Begins
3. War of the Worlds
4. Mr. and Mrs. Smith
5. Charlie And The Chocolate Factory
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2005, 04:58:56 AM »

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Loved it. They took the book and implimented it in to modern day life and it was treated just like it would be now days. Confusion, panic, anger... he captured everything very well. One of my favorite parts is the lighting. One of the only things that felt old in that film to me was the lighting. The little girl standing by the stream and the fake looking reflection is dancing across her face, the basement shots with the windows blocked out- all done insanely well.

*spoiler warning*

My only problems were Tom Cruise and the survival of the son and how that was done. I was really hoping they would off him in this version but not only did they not, but they gave no explanation to his miraculous return to Boston. The end was just crap (plotwise).

Otherwise loved it. 4.3/5 here. Good watch.



EDIT ************* SPOILERS ***************

I didn’t mind the modern day adaptation. It was nice to see some of the elements of the book added: Tim Robin’s character as a combination of the Artilleryman and the Curate (even some of the dialogue is from the book), The exodus scenes, the disease, the tripods, the red weed, the heat-ray (no black poison though  :sad:  ).  

I agree some of the panic and confusion scenes were done real well. I loved the scene with the van and the mob.

I had no complaints about the special effects or the cinematography.

But little plot holes and flubs ruined it for me. The lightning supposedly acts like an EMP charge knocking out all the electronic devices over a large area. Yet one of the scenes directly after this storm, when the alien rises from the ground and starts heat-raying people, is shown from the PoV of some onlooker’s DIGITAL CAMCORDER’S LCD screen. LOL. And when Ray gets back to his house it’s like nothing really happen in his neighborhood. You mean to tell me that people a few blocks down the road from the spot where a huge tripod of death and destruction started ripping shit up wouldn’t notice something seriously wrong? Can they not here it or see it? What about the hundreds of people that would undoubtedly be running like hell from the center of the action?
And I want to know how a jet liner fell onto the house and destroyed it but manage to leave the van intact and untouched (and left it a nice path to escape).
And the whole reason for having the machines buried under the ground was never really explained. In the book the martians bring stuff with them to build, so why the change to having them buried for many many years? Big fat question mark there.
Same with the red-weed. In the book it is explained, but in the movie they change the "blood" harvesting from food for the aliens to fertilizer for the red weed. Why? What purpose does the weed serve in fthe film? Another big fat questionmark.

The whole action sequence with Cruise turning into a bad ass and taking out one of the tripods was stupid and totally out of place with the rest of the movie (looked like somebody dropped a Bruckheimer sequence into the film).
And the transition to the alien deaths was FAR too quick. It does happen quite suddenly in the book, but not THAT quick. It is extremely distracting to have the movie suddenly “end” like it does.
I also, like you, thought the kid should have stayed dead. That whole part when Ray walked up to house in Boston and the mother came out I was like “that dipshit better not walk out”. Sure enough out he comes. “Awwwww, how sweet,” too much of a sappy Hollywood ending for me.

There are inconsistencies and loose ends throughout the whole movie.
I can usually ignore minor flubs, inadequate explainations, and forced situations and just enjoy an action movie but when there are so many glaring discrepancies it gets distracting. You begin to wonder if the director just doesn’t give a shit, thinks the audience will be too dumb to spot it, or both.
I don’t know, this was far below the quality Spielberg usually puts out IMHO.

Why didn't you like it Mr. Couch?
~Mike
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2005, 05:41:45 AM »

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Yet one of the scenes directly after this storm, when the alien rises from the ground and starts heat-raying people, is shown from the PoV of some onlooker’s DIGITAL CAMCORDER’S LCD screen.


I picked that up too!

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And I want to know how a jet liner fell onto the house and destroyed it but manage to leave the van intact and untouched (and left it a nice path to escape).


Well, the outside I think they went overboard on as far as the damage goes. When he forst comes up the stairs it seems like not much was damaged, or like it wasnt everything that was totaled. However, the outdoor view makes it seem like they were tying to level everything.

The path being there is what got me. I hate that in movies. No matter how bad the destruction, theres always a path.

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The whole action sequence with Cruise turning into a bad ass and taking out one of the tripods was stupid and totally out of place with the rest of the movie (looked like somebody dropped a Bruckheimer sequence into the film).
And the transition to the alien deaths was FAR too quick. It does happen quite suddenly in the book, but not THAT quick. It is extremely distracting to have the movie suddenly “end” like it does.
I also, like you, thought the kid should have stayed dead. That whole part when Ray walked up to house in Boston and the mother came out I was like “that dipshit better not walk out”. Sure enough out he comes. “Awwwww, how sweet,” too much of a sappy Hollywood ending for me.


Agreed. The whole ending was rushed. I was disappointed there. And I was disappointed overall with Tom Cruise. But yaknow- do we have any good leading men these days who can do an action role and pull it off without looking like a tool?

I still enjoyed the **** out of it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2005, 05:43:54 AM »

Well I liked it to a point. While I enjoyed the effects and acting I did not like the constant screaming of the little girl even though she is a awesome actor I just think she yelled to much. I think the scene with Tom and his purposed son was out of whack and through me off... :hmm:

I did not like the biblical reference in the ending because it did not make sense to the saying "proof denies faith" and so on but after all that was done in the movie, for Morgan freeman to remind you of the supreme being possibility it does not make much sense to me or maybe I am just funny that way.

But my boss was just recently overwhelmed by a movie called Crash - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/

He was so into it, he actually watched it twice it was that good to him. He stated "If that movie does not get a lot of major awards or naminated for a lot of things considering the cast".

Several stories interweave during two days in Los Angeles involving a collection of inter-related characters: a black police detective with a drugged out mother and a thieving younger brother, two car thieves who are constantly theorizing on society and race, the distracted district attorney and his irritated and pampered wife, a racist veteran cop (caring for a sick father at home) who disgusts his more idealistic younger partner, a successful black Hollywood director and his wife who must deal with racist cop, a Persian-immigrant father who buys a gun to protect his shop, a Hispanic locksmith and his young daughter who is afraid of bullets, and more.

To me it might sound like that movie Will Smith made called 6 degree's of seperation or possibly like the movie Identity. I am waiting till September when it comes on DVD or I might go to the dollar theater to see it, but my boss made it sound promising.
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2005, 05:56:37 AM »

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I did not like the biblical reference in the ending because it did not make sense to the saying "proof denies faith" and so on but after all that was done in the movie, for Morgan freeman to remind you of the supreme being possibility it does not make much sense to me or maybe I am just funny that way.


Morgan Freeman's narration is from the opening chapter and the last few chapters of the book.

~Mike
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2005, 08:27:43 AM »

i was gonna watch this movie tonight but instead i watched Devils Rejects
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2005, 09:25:50 AM »

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i was gonna watch this movie tonight but instead i watched Devils Rejects



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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2005, 02:56:52 PM »

ya, i read zazoos post and decided against it, but now i come back from the movies and a lot of people say they liked it... lol i guess i should of waited. oh well, next time
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2005, 03:13:41 PM »

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He was so into it, he actually watched it twice it was that good to him. He stated "If that movie does not get a lot of major awards or naminated for a lot of things considering the cast".


Yeah, because we know Ludakris is one credible actor.  :tongue:

Just playin'.. I've heard good things too, I'm waiting for a rental.
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2005, 04:20:05 PM »

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And while we're on the subject of old movies- I just watched Million Dollar Baby. Had no idea it was a movie about that, thought it was purely boxing. Great film. Clint Eastwood did very well with it.



Now that is a deeply thought provoking film, thats all im going to say.

And I was pretty impressed with War of the worlds. Although ive never heard the radio plays so i have nothing to compare it to.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2005, 09:56:19 PM »

I recall the book being far more focused on the main character, and I don't recall the main even having had a family. As for the "hero" elements given to Cruise, I find this sort of thing to be a mere ego boost for the lead, as opposed to sharing the fame with the entire crew, although in this film the actors all have such tiny parts with the exception of Cruise and his kids.

Yes, filmmakers think that society is losing intelligence to the point where they can throw anything into a movie and make money. It's true though, because most people are in such a hurry and society seems to focus more on the bad than the good (as is evident in newscasting) that anything that was considered mediocre in the past is now acceptable because it's "better than what they did last [timeframe]".
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